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  Johnnynull 7 years ago

  @Sigg3 For a long time now.

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  Sigg3 7 years ago

  @Ant It's hypocritical to say the least. And unfortunately big business punishes technologists who speak their mind, in order to play nice with govt. Even today people still brag about not "knowing computers". When did ignorance become a badge of honor?

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  Ant 7 years ago

  on the FUD element .... "terrorism", "terrorists" and/or "paedofiles" often feature in all arguments attached to things that curtail public freedoms

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  Sigg3 7 years ago

  @Joe Used to, I guess. We're falling in line with the rest of Europe, where politicians readily use FUD to undermine basic rights.

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  Joe 7 years ago

  I thought you were in Norway @sigg3? I've always been under the impression it's one of the best for privacy.

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  Sigg3 7 years ago

  We're in quite a state here too. They have invented the term "cyber border defense" and "must" monitor EVERYTHING inside the border for the sake of "national security". We need to start teaching cryptography in schools:)

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  Johnnynull 7 years ago

  Ah thanks. I pulled up an article on it, but haven't had a chance to read it yet.

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  Ant 7 years ago

  Given the brexit shite and the crap coming off the back of the arsehole in london last week ( whatsapp and encryption ) privacy in the UK is going to get shat on from a great hight over the next few years. There are further rumblings of a push for encryption backdoors in europe too.
  
  From what i understand the ISP privacy thing in the US isn't actually a change from whats already happening now. The vote was to drop an obama era bill that would have brought a stop to ISP's selling customer data

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  Pietlu 7 years ago

  Ah, okay, didn't know that. Nice :D

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  Joe 7 years ago

  @sigg3 ahahaha!... @pietlu Our main servers are already hosted in Amsterdam with a couple hosted in Frankfurt. I rarely ever spin a node up in the UK any more.

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  Sigg3 7 years ago

  Be careful. The UK privacy laws are carefully protected by the UK privacy laws.

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  Pietlu 7 years ago

  well, if the worst comes to the worst, I could look for a good server-hosting-service here in Germany, if you want :)

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  Johnnynull 7 years ago

  So true. And our information is being sold by more and more entities. Seems the last protections to prevent our ISPs from selling our browsing history is now gone.

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  Joe 7 years ago

  That's true. We do love CCTV over here... We've tried to pull the mass surveillance trigger earlier this year and it's up in court as it's illegal. But once we leave the EU I think those laws will be changed to accommodate it. It still goes on though just like it does with the NSA for you guys so how illegal it is doesn't really mean much.

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  Johnnynull 7 years ago

  I thought UK had more surveillance cameras than we have in the US. Seems at least as much an enemy of privacy as we have.

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