Joe 3 weeks ago
Well I made the wrong decision; concentrating on privacy. We we're around a few years before Mastodon and at the time privacy was my biggest concern with social networks. I didn't see how federation would solve the privacy issue but now, 10 years after I first thought of Pjuu I can assert I was incorrect. We don't solve the privacy concerns, there is nothing here that couldn't be solved by being a Fediverse node whilst still allowing us to chat with others... more in the comments.
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  • Joe 2 weeks ago
    Thanks guys.

    I agree it's not a failure, I was more apologizing for not thinking critically enough about this early on.

    And as usual, will a re-write come, I'm not sure. Life is a lot different now than it was ~9 years ago.
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  • Sigg3 3 weeks ago
    #pjuu is an experiment, just like most social software. Nothing to apologize for @joe :)
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  • Lnxw37 3 weeks ago
    Most important, @joe and @ant, you did the best you could with the knowledge you had at the time. You have decided to re-write in order to add federation, that's based on knowledge gained afterward.

    So if Pjuu version 2.0 is easier to set up and run, it will have an advantage over either Mastodon or Pleroma ... that can lead to several instances sprouting up quickly.
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  • Lnxw37 3 weeks ago
    > Privacy is solved by how we operate the software.

    Partially, but privacy should be built in, just like security and federation.

    I'm on-board with a re-write that federates with Mastodon, Pleroma, GNU Social, and the rest of the Fediverse, especially if things like user caps and the ability to switch to invitation-only are built in.
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  • Lnxw37 3 weeks ago
    > Mastodon did this right! They started to cap the numbers early on to each node they ran.

    In general, they have not done this. The largest nodes mostly have caps during sign-up rushes and then go back to open sign-up after that.
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  • Tucumano88 3 weeks ago
    A trully magnificent reflection about our reality. The social world cross our daily life and the recently take over of Twitter got the fediverse upside down. It's weird...
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  • Joe 3 weeks ago
    FYI. Please press the 1-9 button above this post. That's another mistake I made.
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  • Joe 3 weeks ago
    This should be the future of Pjuu! Privacy is still the most important thing to me and it should be to you. But. Being social is what this games all.
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  • Joe 3 weeks ago
    We've been planning to re-write Pjuu for years now (just look at our Github issues). If I get time to do this I will concentrate on federation first. Privacy is solved by how we operate the software. If you wear your tinfoil hat (guilty!) you wouldn't trust us, and neither should you, you should take it into your own hands and that's what we should help enable. As a technology gets more popular and leaves the hands of developers it's prone to becoming siloed.
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  • Joe 3 weeks ago
    Mastodon did this right! They started to cap the numbers early on to each node they ran.
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  • Joe 3 weeks ago
    I understand everyone running their own instance isn't feasible and small interest groups makes sense. But if the resources requirements were even lower and documentation even better this would start to increase the shard count on the Fediverse and increasing the number of implementations would be greatly aide in privacy independence.
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  • Joe 3 weeks ago
    True privacy in this newer model comes from each person running their own instance and communicating in a truly distributed fashion. May be that's where we should concentrate our efforts. Lower the barrier of entry for every last person to take privacy in to their own hands whilst allowing them to be part of society.
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  • Joe 3 weeks ago
    As we see with the likes of Office365 and Gmail this massively distributed network become more siloed and they start to add tongues to the language everyone speaks. That's the issue the Fediverse is going to face going forward and probably at a much more accelerated pace.
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  • Joe 3 weeks ago
    Just like email I can see the Fediverse being hugely popular. Email has the advantage of having hundreds of servers and clients all talking the same language this is what helps enable the privacy we seek so much.
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  • Joe 3 weeks ago
    There is one way to achieve our goal and still be part of the bigger picture and that's to create a Fediverse compatible alternative to Mastodon. Mastodon is fantastic and enjoying a massive boon due to the Twitter take over.
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  • Joe 3 weeks ago
    I would like to apologies. Development has stalled here and it shouldn't have.
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  • Joe 3 weeks ago
    The problem with Pjuu is this; if we became successful we would not be able to sustain our privacy model whilst trying to run the site. The code being open isn't enough it's the data that's all important!
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  • Joe 3 weeks ago
    I have watched the Fediverse at every step make the right decisions whilst looking at the concentrating on the wrong things.
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  • Joe 3 weeks ago
    Whilst we are still 100% obsessed with privacy we have created an isolated environment which feels equivalent to someone paranoid not interacting with society, this isn't healthy.
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